Boxing-Philosophy Fight Schedule
The next bout is…
Saturday 22nd May 2010, California, USA:
Israel Vazquez, 44-4 (Mexico) vs Rafael Marquez, 38-5 (Mexico)
Saturday 19th June 2010, WBA Super Middleweight Championship/Showtime Super Six World Boxing Classic, California, USA:
Andre Ward, 21-0 (USA) vs Allan Green, 29-1 (USA)
Boxing-Philosophy Fantasy League: Explained
Analyzing a contest and breaking down the relative strengths and weaknesses of the combatants is one thing; picking the right winner is quite another. Keeping a record of just how many fights we can all get right (and wrong) may well end up proving an exercise in embarrassment, but it should be fun nevertheless.
The rules and points system will be kept to a minimum in the interests of simplicity. Anyone is welcome to join at any stage of the game, although obviously the later you join the harder it will be to earn the points to climb the table.
At the end of the year the person with the most points will have the glory of standing astride undoubtedly the greatest league table since Baddiel & Skinner graced our screens on a Friday evening with the one and only original Fantasy Football League. Aside from these priceless bragging rights, the winner will also receive the fantastic prize of a return air-ticket to any destination in the world of their choosing!*
The idea is simple: make a prediction for who you think will win an upcoming fight and how they will win it. Every correct pick receives points.
The Rules and Points System (in brief) are as follows:
(1) If you pick the correct winner of a fight, you receive three points.
(2) If you pick the correct method of victory (either points or stoppage) you receive a further two points.
(3) If you correctly pick if the fight will end under or over a pre-designated number of rounds, you receive one point.
The total number of points available for a single fight is therefore six.
Email your predictions to moboxer@gmail.com or leave them as a comment on this blog!
The Rules and Points System (in detail) are as follows:
(1) If you pick the correct winner of a fight, you receive three points.
(2) If you pick the correct method of victory, you receive a further two points. In the interests of simplicity, the only methods of victory will be: (a) a points victory; (b) stoppage/t.k.o or k.o.
In the event of a disqualification or a fight being stopped due to a cut or otherwise accidental injury (i.e. not caused by a punch) points will be given for picking the winner but not for the method.
(3) If you pick correctly in the “under/over” round betting (according to Sky Sports SkyBet) you receive a further one point. Note: Your “under/over” pick must be consistent with your method of victory pick. So you cannot pick someone to win on points and pick “under” (e.g 10 rounds) in the “under/over” betting. Where Sky do not post odds on this it will be taken from another source. Note: “Over round 10” = 1oth round or over; “Under round 10” = 9th round or under.
(4) The maximum points gained for any individual fight is therefore six; if you pick correctly all of the following: the winner, whether he wins by points or by knockout and whether the fight will end under or over X number of rounds. Note: if you pick the wrong winner you DO NOT receive any points for the method, but you DO still receive a point if you pick the under/over round correctly.
(5) Fights selected to be part of the Boxing-Philosophy League points process will be posted on the blog at least one week in advance of the fight taking place; but will usually be scheduled well in advance (see the Boxing-Philosophy Fight Schedule for upcoming bouts). Reader’s are encouraged to make suggestions for fights to be included in the league. The “under/over” round betting will be posted next to the fight in the Boxing-Philosophy Fight Schedule.
(6) Fights should be reasonably well-known in order that everyone can make an educated pick. There’s no point including a fight on some obscure undercard in a back water of Columbia that no one has ever heard of. Most contests will involve European and American fighters and will usually involve titles.
(7) There will be a Boxing-Philosophy League Fight Prediction page posted one week before the contest takes place, stating the pick of yours truly.
(8) The points totals will be viewable in The Boxing-Philosophy League Table. Points will be updated following each contest. Next to each persons name a record of correct picks will be kept and appear as Winner/Method/UnderOver. New editions to the table will start on zero points, regardless of how many contests they have missed.
If you want to take part, just send me an email and I’ll add you to the table! I have started by taking the liberty of adding certain names to the table of whom I am presupposing entrance. If these people fail to take part they will remain on zero points and everyone else in the table will feel better that they are not the one propping up the table!
Enjoy.
*In the event that any person except the editor of this blog wins the Boxing-Philosophy League, the return air-ticket prize becomes null and void. He promises though that he will buy you a drink or two next time he sees you.
Pointing The Finger
Just like that, the biggest prize fight in a generation is laid to waste. There’s no compromise, no ego’s backing down for the sake of the great good. Not even a potential $40 million per side could convince the parties to agree. And so to the cynics: it’s safe to come out now, guys. Start writing. Boxing is a joke. Again.
So, the question begs: where to point the finger of blame? One of the more irritating aspects of this whole debacle is that the stench it has created will undoubtedly linger longer than a dead dog’s arse. Fans are condemned to reading press releases from each camp accusing the other camp of ‘turning down the fight’ ad infinitum. It is a woeful prospect.
Mayweather was scared to fight, we knew it all along, the Pacquiao camp will cry. Pacquiao is hiding something, we knew it all along, the Mayweather camp will howl. On and on the cycle will go.
So I’m going to get off the fence right away: Manny Pacquiao is squarely to blame for this fight falling through. There’s no doubt about it – I am pointing the finger right at the Pacman. Mayweather, as far as I am concerned, is absolved of all blame in these negotiations failing. I should probably follow that up by saying what a huge fan I am of the Filipino phenom. He is quite simply one of boxing’s greatest, and one of my favourite, fighters of all time. Which makes this even more of a bitter pill to swallow.
You see amongst all the bullshit, all the spin, all the claims and counter-claims from each of the camps, a certain set of simple facts remain: Floyd Mayweather asked Manny Pacquiao to take a random drug test before their fight. Manny Pacquiao refused.
Now, of course the Pacquiao camp will say they “are ready and willing to take a test as required by the NSAC blah blah blah”. They will also say that they will even take a “random” blood test up to X amount of days before the fight. Therefore, it is Mayweather who is turning down the fight, running scared, making unreasonable demands. There are many problems with this argument.
First of all, ask yourself just how absurd the idea of a random drug test is where the dates are fixed by none other than the athlete taking that test. Ask yourself, in what other sport in the world can a world champion dictate the terms of his own drug testing? Ask yourself, how many drink-drivers would the police catch if they set up neon lighting a mile down the road warning motorists of the impending inspection? Frankly the Pacquiao camp are insulting our intelligence by even suggesting such an idea.
Secondly, it is widely known that the urine samples tested by the NSAC, whilst important, are not infallible. Shane Mosley has gone on record stating that he was (unbeknown to himself at the time) using steroids leading up to his rematch with Oscar de la Hoya in September 2003. Yet nothing was ever detected in any pre- or post-fight urine samples. How many others got through the net, there’s just no way of knowing. Besides begging the obvious question of why the hell these tests haven’t been modified to the highest possible standard already, in terms of the dispute in question it does lend some credence to Mayweather’s, and in fact any other active fighter’s, demands for more stringent testing.
To those that say no, the onus is on the accusers to prove Manny’s guilt, not on Manny to prove his innocence, I would say simply you are wrong. You are wrong because we are not even dealing with guilt and innocence. We are dealing with world class athletes, and each and every one of them quite rightly carries the responsibility to prove time and again to the highest possible standards that they are playing fairly and by the rules.
As unusual as Mayweather’s demand was for the random blood test, the fact is that the demand was made. The sad irony of the situation is that this ridiculous demand became reasonable the very moment Pacquiao refused to take it.
There were two ways of dealing with this demand. One of them was taking the test. If, as Pacquiao’s adviser Mike Koncz claimed, this is all just “a facade and a way for Mayweather to get out of the fight” – then call his bluff! Prove it to the world by taking the test. As much as I dislike The Golden Child Mr.DLH using his ownership of The Ring magazine to peddle his views, you have to say he made an exceptionally simple and profound point on his blog: if there is nothing to hide, just take the test. Even Pacquiao’s former foe Miguel Cotto chimed in, saying Manny’s refusal to take the test without conditions “raises questions”.
Not only would taking the test give Manny the chance to prove to the world that Mayweather and all of his associates’ claims are completely false and unfounded, it also presents him with the chance to show the world that boxing is one of the cleanest, most respectable sports out there. Show the up and coming kids what it takes to become a legend in this game: no drugs, no cheating; just plain hard work and dedication, boys. What an honour and a privileged position that is to be in.
The other way of dealing with the demand was to walk away. To refuse. To say, “no, I won’t take the test on anything less than my own terms”. Pacquiao took the second option. Koncz explained the decision to walk away as being based on ‘principle’:
“He is upset his reputation has been tarnished and he wants his fans to know that at some point, you have to stand on principle. He’s walking away from $35 million, $40 million, maybe $50 million on principle.”
Just what principle exactly is Manny Pacquiao standing on here? “Hey kids, don’t worry, if you don’t want to take a random drugs test before one of the biggest sporting contests in history, you shouldn’t have to!”. Yes, I can just see it now, they’ll be teaching it in school classrooms across the Philippines and beyond for generations to come. Maybe one day some body will make a nursery rhyme out of it.
“Principle”? “Tarnished reputation?” What nonsense. Pacquiao has tarnished his own reputation more than all of Golden Boy and Mayweather Promotions put together could possibly have dreamed of doing by refusing this test. All because the world’s finest pound-for-pound boxer is scared to give a blood sample too close to a fight in case it “weakens him”. That’s right: Manny Pacquiao, the man who stood smiling and singing at his last post-fight press-conference with his head wrapped in bandages after having his ear drained of blood due to the left hooks of Miguel Cotto that crashed against his skull, is scared of a pin-prick.
“After Manny fought [Erik] Morales [in 2005], he attributed the loss to the late blood test he took”, explained Koncz. Funny, but I vividly remember Freddie Roach screaming that the loss was due to Manny not being allowed to wear his favoured ‘puncher’s’ gloves, and instead being made to wear what Roach referred to as ‘pillows’. Funnier still, I seem to remember that loss being the result of Manny being out-boxed fair and square by the better man on the night.
Apparently, Manny’s reaction to the whole thing is that “he is very disappointed because he wanted to give the fans this fight” said Koncz. Just how badly he wanted it is now sadly evident for all to see: Not badly enough that he was willing to give a blood sample that disrupts approximately five minutes of your day and has no bearing whatsoever on your physical capabilities.
Floyd Mayweather made an unusual, provocative and irritating demand in order for one of the biggest fights in boxing history to be made. I didn’t like him for making the demand, and most agreed that it was unnecessary and tasteless. Manny Pacquiao, though, made a far worse decision in refusing to meet this irritation head-on. Long after the cat-fighting, bitching and moaning has died down, the ramifications will still be felt by the fans and by a sport that will be in short supply of ammunition with which to answer their critics. And for that, Manny Pacquiao, I point the finger of blame at you.
Too Good To Be True
The saying goes that, “if something seems too good to be true, it probably is”.
It was.
Weeks of protracted negotiations were expected between the two camps before any agreement was likely to be reached. Yet it seemed like it took Richard Schaefer and Bob Arum less time than it takes to boil the kettle for them to reach an agreement for the proposed mega-bout between pound-for-pound pretenders Messrs Pacman Pacquiao and Money Mayweather. To everyone’s amazement the expected publicly drawn-out battle over who should get the biggest slice of the pie never materialized, and before you could say a hundred million bucks it seemed that the fight was all but signed and sealed.
Boxingscene.com quoted Arum explaining the situation as follows: “in the first meeting I had with the Mayweather people I said you want me to spend two hours saying why Manny deserves more than fifty percent and then you’ll spend three hours telling me why Mayweather deserves more than fifty percent. So let’s save a lot of time and cut out the nonsense.”
Boxing, for once, appeared to have defied the cynics and delivered boxing to the front of the sports pages – only this time for all the right reasons: a match made in heaven.
With the biggest hurdle of dividing the cash now firmly in the rear view mirror, there were still a few minor humps in the road ahead before the green light for the big fight came on. The other matter of poundage had to be dealt with – pounds and ounces that is, not pounds and pence. Both parties agreed: the welterweight limit of 147lbs would be the contracted limit. Hurdle two out of the way. Then Manny Pacquiao had a small issue of running for political office to attend to, which was neatly avoided by bringing the fight forward a few weeks. One more obstacle avoided with surprising ease.
Compared with these pre-negotiation problems, all else seemed irrelevant. The rest would just fall into place; dot a few I’s and cross a few T’s and let the hype begin. Pre-fight predictions began changing from if they fight to when they fight. It all seemed too good to be true.
It was.
What should have been boxing’s finest hour between two of its most decorated combatants turned into a global internet game of “he said, she said”. An embarrassing legal cat-fight ensued and enough dirty drug stories to last Renton and Sick-boy a lifetime poured out over the internet. If you tried to script a scenario where boxing came out of the situation any worse, you’d really struggle.
Now all that is left is a few precious hours of negotiating between a few very rich men to salvage what could be the fight that defines an era. Unfortunately for boxing fans, if the fight is not made, it may well end up defining much more than an era. It may end up defining the sport itself – for all the wrong reasons.
With this much money at stake, and that many rich men in one room, it’s hard to see an agreement not being made. And unfortunately, sometimes as a boxing fan, it’s hard not to be cynical. Because if things seem too good to be true, they usually are.


